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SPRUCEDALE

I recently wrote about a man who was convicted of first degree murder being tossed from his cushy jail cell at a Youth Detention Centre into a real, adult prison. This man was merely 17 days away from his 18th birthday when he savagely beat Terrence Ali to death. Ali's skull had become severed from his spine before he was dragged and dumped in Lake Ontario to drown. Ali's mother, Moonie Ali, was instrumental in having this man, now 21, removed from the youth centre and placed in an adult facility. Needless to say, the man is not impressed. I can see why.

At 18, you can be tried as an adult in Canada. Thus man was close enough that he should have been, but he caught a break and was tried as a juvenile. He had about three years left of his sentence to serve. He wanted to do it the easy way. We'll know by April 15 if he gets his wish or not, but it's easy to see why he would want to stay where he is.


The name of the jail is Sprucedale Youth Centre and it currently houses other inmates who should also be transferred due to their age. One staffer is especially galled that some are over 20, the age they are required to be transferred into adult prison by the Youth Criminal Justice Act unless the provincial director deems otherwise. "When they hit 18, you should kick them out and make them do some hard time," he argues. I can see no fault with that logic.

The teen who stabbed his brother Johnathon 71 times enjoys the swimming pool there. Kevin Madden, 19, who was sentenced as an adult last fall to life in prison for the vicious murder of his brother Johnathon. Yet the notorious killer is being allowed to serve his first two years in the youth facility despite court testimony that he is liable to bully younger boys. "The first thing he did when he got here was go for a swim," an employee says. A youth implicated in the Boxing Day shooting of Jane Creba has access to pottery class there. "We just got in one of the Boxing Day shooters," he says of a young offender charged in the death of 15-year-old Creba. "He's just laughing while he's at this Mickey Mouse joint. How does this stop them from killing again?"


These convicts and the others in their crowd might as well be at camp. Besides the indoor pool, there's the gym, weight room, tennis courts, shared kitchens, video games and late-night weekends when they're allowed to order in Kentucky Fried Chicken or McDonald's. If they get bored, there's the volleyball club, hockey program, arts and crafts and music appreciation. This is totally ridiculous. I was under the impression, mistakenly it seems, that these offenders are there to pay for their crimes, not have a vacation.

Consider what one staffer said, "Schools in the city are looking at having to close their pools while at our place, they can get their swimming lessons or go down for a recreational swim. I have to pay for my kids to take swimming lessons. These kids don't. They're given everything. It just makes you sick." "They get the kid glove treatment," complains the worker, who didn't want his name used. "It bothers a lot of us. It's pretty incredible as far as what these guys get. They're treated with a lot more dignity than their victims ever were." I'm sure we can all relate to that.

In this country, the left wing thinkers have made a conscious decision and convinced the rest of us not to be as punitive with youth criminals here as they are in the United States. They actually believe that there is still hope for these kids, that there remains a small window to reach them. If we just threw them into the adult population, there's little doubt they would come out the other side angrier and more bent on criminality than ever before. Hogwash. If that's true, then the people we send to prison as adults should never be allowed freedom again. All it will do is make them angrier and more bent on criminality than before, too. This flies in the face of the liberal bent that tells us rehab works. Sorry folks, you can't have it both ways. Either the convict becomes more resentful towards society or he has an epiphany which allows him the freedom to roam among society once more, totally rehabilitated. Which is it?

This employee argues, and I for one have to agree, that we have gone too far in the opposite direction. But it doesn't stop there. Oh no. For at least one inmate, anything even included sex. This 21-year-old is in Sprucedale for the 2003 Scarborough murder of his 17-year-old ex- girlfriend with a baseball bat. That didn't stop him from having a six-week-long affair last summer with one of the centre's supervisory officers. The employee was fired but Sprucedale authorities are not only letting the killer stay on, they are even recommending he be released into the community 10 months early because he's an "exemplary resident." You've really got to admire just how tough our criminal justice system is on young offenders, even those who grow old in kiddie jails. "He was out bowling with her during some of their encounters. How he was out of a maximum security jail bowling is beyond me," the staffer said. Bowling excursions have now been cancelled and all we can do is wait for the libs to cry unfair, inhumane, cruel and unusual treatment.

We all owe a debt to Moonie Ali for bringing all this to light. Let's hope enough people make enough of a stink to get things changed. In a hurry.

Sources: Michele Mandel Easy Time At Sprucedale The Toronto Sun
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1. March 12th 2007 @ 14:10. Don Lee Says:
When a young offender gets such good treatment for his crimes, why would he want to change? Prisons are supposed to be punishment facilities, not playgrounds. Keep telling how it is, Youranter.
2. March 12th 2007 @ 14:14. S.L.Bradish Says:
The recidvism rate in young offenders is horrifying. How many times have we been stunned by the brutality of a crime, only to find the perpetrator started his career in his teens? A nasty spat on the wrist or a nice vacation doesn't teach them anything except how easy it was to get away with something.
3. March 12th 2007 @ 23:05. D. Armenta Says:
Hey, I don't have access to a swimming pool or lessons, or hockey or a gym either! Does this mean that all I have to do to get those things is commit a crime? Sweet...
4. March 13th 2007 @ 10:13. youranter Says:
I think back to the days when my Dad would threaten me with reform school if I misbehaved or jail when I got older, and I thought they would be bad things.
5. March 14th 2007 @ 19:26. youranter Says:
A lot of this nonsense could be avoided if parents cracked down on their kids instead of giving them a 'time out'. But when things go too far, the judicial system has a responsibility to do what the parents failed to. It seems they too are failing.
6. April 6th 2007 @ 19:21. youranter Says:
This story is a bit deeper than you realize, Anon. Anyway, Moonie aside, the article is about Sprucedale and the kid glove treatment that is meted out to these cowards. Stay tuned and learn some more. I haven't finished with it yet. Better still, why not confront Moonie directly? Because you don't know all the facts? I don't pretend to, but I know when someone is being genuine.
7. April 7th 2007 @ 06:09. youranter Says:
Okay, Anon, here's some facts for you. I didn't write about the kids at Sprucedale. I wrote about the overage cowards who want to hang on to the good life. You say you've been at Sprucedale for a number of years. Just how old are you? Obviously you are going to take a stance against Moonie. You may find yourself in the same predicament and actually have to do some real time instead of ordering out on Friday nights when you're bored. Please explain to me how moving this guy to an adult facility helps Moonie monetarily? And please, if you're so brave, use even a pseudonym when you write. 'Anonymous' just shows that you are a coward. Why not write your own blog and show me where I am wrong?
8. April 7th 2007 @ 14:18. youranter Says:
I use 'Youranter' to keep people from forming opinions of my articles based on my background. I've had enough 'anonymous' comments to consider them written by cowards. Like I said, even a pseudonym is preferable. I know quite a few people your age who served in the armed forces. But serving in peacetime is not quite the same as going to war, is it? From the vehemence in your comments, I thought maybe you were spending time in Sprucedale and looking at getting kicked out too. My mistake. You don't have to agree with me, but when you say I write garbage, I take offense. The Sprucedale articles are based on the observations of two different reporters. Are they writing garbage too? I have spoken with Mrs. Ali and I know she would be offended at what you wrote.You didn't offend me, per se, but I don't need readers who come out with the stuff you did. You are right though. We have a legal system. Too bad it isn't a justice system instead.
9. April 8th 2007 @ 09:09. youranter Says:
Let's see, reporters are paid for their work, they check their facts, two different reporters are saying the same thing, the artcles quoted come from a respected newspaper, yup, I can see how you'd be confused. Yes, I do know the story about the Pied Piper. Seems he led the kingdom by the nose like these kids are leading the 'justice' system by the nose.
Good thing you don't write. You'd never make a dime at it because your ideas would be so easy to dispell.
10. April 8th 2007 @ 14:44. youranter Says:
So, the Piper, having made a deal, which went against him, granted, didn't lead the king and the rest by the nose, hijacking the kids, to get his way? Sounds like what Terrence's killer did the other day. As for MM, she is still getting paid more than you or I to write. Maybe you should give back your degree. You certainly don't know how to use it. And so what if I, or any of her readers, did agree with her? You're free to rebut it in your own columns, articles, blogs, whatever you want to call them.
11. October 27th 2007 @ 14:51. On Your Side BUT Says:
I have a little problem with calling the people writing in the Sun and some here, "reporters". I see reporters having their writing appear on page one, "The News Page". I see the articles on Sprucedale appear on the "Opinion Page" where writers write but they do not "report". To me there is a difference. I see little reference to facts here, only opinion. To change peoples opinion show them the numbers. Refer to some facts that show 99 of 100 young offenders re-offend. Don't use percentages. When you increase from one to two that is 100% increase. When you move from 100 out of 10,000 to 101 that is not a 100% increase but is an increase of one. Help change the Young Offenders act, it will take more than opinion. Things need to change so don't just vent change opinion.
12. October 27th 2007 @ 19:07. youranter Says:
Sorry, but if you do a background search you'll find everything I wrote is true. I've had people trying to take me to task over this article, but somehow they can't back up what they say. The original article was written by Michele Mandel. You can take it up with her if you want. Last time I checked, if you Google 'Sprucedale' you'll see that this article is at or close to the top of their list about this subject.
Thanks for the comment though.
13. September 8th 2010 @ 19:09. Anonymous Says:
obvouisly you have never been in a youth facility. Its not all fun and games. Your in a youth jail. Yes they have access to resouces they are human after all. Many have mental health issues and many have suffered horrible abuse throughout their life. They are paying the price being lock away, with no freedom. They are not free in these facilties. They are locked in their rooms, they need permission to go to the bathroom, they have assigned spots to sit, they have no choices there. There is a token system that if they have good behaviour they get points to do the 'fun' activities. The goal is to use positive reinforcement rather then negative. So its not a vacation at all. Its trying to re-structure these damaged kids who need to pay the price of their crimes. Remember, criminals have been victims at one point too.

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