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SHARIAH LAW

A rather sad story came across my desk this morning and I thought it was worth going into. It seems a Muslim woman and her baby daughter were stabbed by her husband. He pleaded guilty to two counts of aggravated assault to avoid attempted murder charges. Smart move on this guys part. He attacked the wife in their Montreal apartment in February 2006, stabbing her several times, including in the face. He then stabbed the infant girl twice in the stomach. She spent 10 days in hospital recovering. I don't think he'd last too long in prison. Even convicts have their own code of ethics. The man also denied he needed treatment for his violent behaviour. Yeah, and Paris Hilton doesn't need to wear panties.

What is sad about this case is that she can get a legal divorce in Quebec. Whether or not it is recognized in Lebanon is another matter. And that is the crux of the matter. The woman earlier told the court she would like to return to her family in Lebanon but without a religious divorce she worries that she could be forced to return to her husband or face charges of abducting her own daughter. Both Quebec and Ontario have passed laws banning the use of any religious tribunals, Muslim, Jewish or otherwise, to settle family law disputes like custody and divorce. Unfortunately, many Muslim women want a Shariah stamp of approval. "They had a religious marriage in Lebanon and if she returns she could have problems," Crown lawyer Sophie Lavergne told the judge.
The husband claims he will not agree to a divorce under Shariah law in Canada. "The issue of the divorce will be decided over there," he told the judge. Critics say it's an example of the inequality of women in Shariah law that a man can simply refuse a religious divorce, even in such a case. So, she can either have a legal divorce under the laws of Canada, or she can insist on returning to Lebanon and facing Islamic law there. I don't know if this woman holds dual citizenship or not, but I wonder at her insistence to return to a war torn country with this hanging over her head. How soon would she become a Canadian of convenience and ask us to rescue her for her tormentors?

The legal divorce available to her should suffice. We don't recognize Shariah law because it is oppressive to women, as shown above. The Qur'an is very clear that you cannot keep women in a marriage against their will. Some say the ban on Shariah within the judicial system, with all its checks and balances, means Muslims can be at the mercy of local Islamic leadership. Nonsense. You are living in Canada, not a country stuck in the 12th century, so why not obey or avail yourself to Canada's laws.
One country, one set of laws. To allow Shariah law to usurp Canadian law is ludicrous. We already treat the Natives differently, we don't need Islam making waves. If you want Shariah law, go to the countries that practice it and stay there. Renounce your Canadian citizenship and I wish you well along the path you have chosen.
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1. January 26th 2007 @ 15:27. S.L. Bradish Says:
You're absolutely right! If she wants to go back to a theocracy where she has no rights, good luck to her. I knew a woman was was terribly abused and got a civil divorce, but the Catholic Church wouldn't allow her a church annulment. Religion can be a wonderful thing, but when it allows or supports the abuse of anyone it fails it's believers and lets them down. I feel sorriest for the Shariah woman's baby. What a miserable future the child will have under those rules. Especially since the father has tried to kill her once.
2. January 26th 2007 @ 15:30. Don Lee Says:
It doesn't seem like the mother cares about herself or her baby. The husband should be locked up for ten years or more. That's what would happen here. How can anyone belong to a religion or sect like that? It seems insane to me.
3. January 26th 2007 @ 16:47. Ahmed Says:
Under Shariah law the husband would be executed and the woman would be given the equivalent of an exceptionally large payment from the mans remaining assets (I think it's like over 50%, especially if he had a son, goes up to 75% of his assets), after which the remaining assets are distributed accordingly across his family.

Attempted murder like this is in fact judged as harshly as murder, the 'intent to do grievous bodily harm but not kill' argument holds no weight under shariah law either.

I don't know why you think lebanon enforces shariah law, but whatever.

If it did enforce shariah law I would like to bring up the fact the woman can of her own free will divorce from her husband with no reason needed whatsoever. Yes, it is cold hard fact, as is (despite you probably thinking differently) being a sin of the worst kind to force a woman into a marriage she does not wish to be in.

The husband cannot threaten his wife with divorce either, this does not extend to the wife who can actually threaten her husband with divorce (though it isn't recommended as it obviously destabalizes a relationship </personal opinion>.

Now, lets here a cleverly spun story of me, a muslim, purpously 'misinterpreting' the laws I live by. Whatever really, what I am stating is shariah law, what you are refering to is lebanese culture and law. Theres a big difference between them. One is gods word, the other is mans twisted interpretations of it.
4. January 26th 2007 @ 16:58. youranter Says:
I'm not an expert in Shariah law, Ahmed. All I know is that she wants to return to Lebanon, where both of them come from. I have to aassume that she knows what she is talking about when she says Shariah law will treat her harshly. That's why we don't allow it here. It degrades women and makes them chattel of their husbands. Even he said that divorce will be decided over there, not here. My point was that she has a legal option available to her here and need not bow to Shariah law. Please explain to me how both of them seem to think the husband can divorce her, but won't let her divorce him? As I said, I'm no expert on Shariah law, but it seems pretty one sided to me.
Pretty cleverly spun tale against you isn't it? Get over yourself. The world is not against you.
5. January 26th 2007 @ 17:02. Ahmed Says:
She is talking about lebanese law, Shariah law will not treat her harshly, shariah law will have her husband executed and a large part of his estate will be given to her.

Once again you dodge the facts, the facts are simply put straight, you are misinterpreting shariah law.

It actually, in marriage, gives more rights to the women than men, but conservatives like you, heh, blind.
6. January 26th 2007 @ 17:05. Ahmed Says:
The world isn't against me, but stupidity and ignorance fills it up quite a bit.

I am telling you RIGHT NOW that Shariah law GIVES WOMEN THE RIGHT TO DIVORCE THEIR HUSBAND WIHT NO REASON WHATSOEVER, I know because I have experienced htis law in action first hand, understand? If you are going to just assume lebanon is under shariah law because some woman looking for sympathy (and maybe even diserving it) is claiming it is does not make it true.

You might not be an expert at it, but I know about it, why ar eyou trying to tell me that shariah law forces a woman to be bound to her husband? I'm telling you right now that is not the case, not by a long shot.

Quit mixing countries with Islam, Lebanon is not enforcing shariah law.
7. January 26th 2007 @ 17:06. youranter Says:
She and her husband both referred to Shariah law. I just put out what I read. Don't kill the messanger, Ahmed. Perhaps you are right. But all I know is what they said.
8. January 26th 2007 @ 17:09. Ahmed Says:
Well what they said was lies, they are under the wrong assumption that shariah law forces women to be bound to their husbands.

Heh, it's even in the Quran that women cannot be forced into marriage and that women have the right to divorce whenever they wish.

If the messenger stated the whole truth, that those people claimed it was shariah law, instead of claiming it is shariah law I wouldn't be out to humiliate him, like I did with fox news. Delibrately playing the part of an idiot does not save you.
9. January 26th 2007 @ 17:10. youranter Says:
Take a pill, Ahmed. I've stated what I believe from what I've read. There's no need to shout. Maybe I am wrong. All I did was report what they said. Their identies are protected otherwise I'd tell you to go rant against them and explain the difference between Shariah law and Lebanese law to them.
10. January 26th 2007 @ 17:12. Ahmed Says:
bleh, I say again:

If the messenger stated the whole truth, that those people claimed it was shariah law, instead of claiming it is shariah law I wouldn't be out to humiliate him, like I did with fox news. Delibrately playing the part of an idiot does not exempt you.


You have an obligation to tell the truth, not report what people said and state it must be the truth and base your truth on shoddy sources. Thats poor journalism.
11. January 26th 2007 @ 17:24. youranter Says:
"The husband claims he will not agree to a divorce under Shariah law in Canada." That is what I reported. I also said the woman was looking for a stamp of approval from leaders of Islam that under Shariah law her divorce would be recognized. I never said I was a journalist. I claim to be a blogger. Big difference. I can't imagine you taking on Fox News. You probably went off on another of your silly tangents and if, indeed, they did interview you, they saw it for wha it was and cut the piece. Now that we have that nonsense out of the way, judge the article in its entirety and debate that. You've made some good comments and enlightened me. Thank you.
12. January 26th 2007 @ 17:30. Ahmed Says:
oh no, thats not what you were thinking when you wrote that, you commented:

That's why we don't allow it here. It degrades women and makes them chattel of their husbands.

oh really? so you really did in fact assume it was shariah law from the start, didn't you? Heh, called your little bluff from the start, you really shouldn't have said that. Thats why you wouldn't enforce it in canada? Obviously she knew more about Shariah law than the Quran did.

I said it was poor journalism, I didn't say you had to be a journalist to know what verifying the validity of claims is.

Heh, a person who supports fox news, I highly encourage you to read that article where I explain how stupid fox news was for claiming a lifetime christian was a Muslim.
13. January 26th 2007 @ 17:35. Ahmed Says:
oh btw, you did say this in your original post:

The husband claims he will not agree to a divorce under Shariah law in Canada. "The issue of the divorce will be decided over there," he told the judge. Critics say it's an example of the inequality of women in Shariah law that a man can simply refuse a religious divorce, even in such a case.

which more or less led me to assume that you did in fact believe what they were saying was shariah law, that you weren't reporting the whole truth, you only made it more easier for me to know you were delibrately misinforming, like Fox News was about Senator Obama (yeah, had to sneak that one in, you conservatives are all the same ).
14. January 26th 2007 @ 17:47. youranter Says:
Amazing how your spelling has improved, Ahmed. Who's writing this for you. I never paid much attention to the whole Shariah law thing when it first showed up here as I thought it was ridiculous. I went with what I read in the paper. Perhps they should do some journalistic verifying themselves. But then again, I trust they already have, otherwise the article would not have appeared in the first place. Contrary to what you may believe, newspapers learn from past mistakes are very ware that if they print an untruth they will be vilified far and wide. I wasn't bluffing anyone, Ahmed. I just wrote an article, plain and simple. You're such a genius and I am but a poor schlep. Geez, you are unreal.
15. January 26th 2007 @ 17:47. Ahmed Says:
bleh, I'm going to bed.

I'm looking at this from every concievable angel I can, honestly it is pretty much over, you can say what you want now, but you cant change what you said before, it is clear as day you delibrately misinformed about shariah law, no point arguing that.
16. January 26th 2007 @ 17:50. Ahmed Says:
The paper wrote specifically that is what those two people said, you twisted that and made it out like it was fact from a credible source, you delibrately misinformed, it is clear as day.

Heck, it doesn't even take a genius to realise that you cite sources of information. Especially when you quote them directly.

And again you criticize my spelling, you know when you do that it is a clear indicator of losing an argument? Yeah you do, you've lost in this manner so many times, it is comical.

Wait, it's even more comical that I am not making spelling mistakes now and you still are trying to use that against me.

oh look, I didn't capitalise. woops. I must be wrong about Shariah law and about you delibrately misinforming.
17. January 27th 2007 @ 10:46. youranter Says:
Okay, a newspaper is not a credible source now. What is? Ahmed the Great? Keeping stroking your own ego (along with other things) and come back when you can stick to the subject at hand rather than trying to get someone to take a shot at you so you can whine about how we all hate Muslims.
18. January 28th 2007 @ 13:45. youranter Says:
What's the matter, Ahmed? Cat got your tongue? Here's some news for you.
Shariah Islamic Law
Thursday, April 7th, 2005
by Denis J. Wiechman, Jerry D. Kendall, and Mohammad K. Azarian
Sharia also known as Shariah (Sharee’ah;Shari’ah) Islamic Law.
Sharia, Shariah, Sharee’ah, Shari’ah are all basically terms that mean the same thing. The islamic law sent down by God for all of mankind is known as sacred law to some, but muslims in arabic call it the Sharia, Shariah, Sharee’ah, Shari’ah. The word Sharia, Shariah, Sharee’ah, Shari’ah in arabic means ‘the source’ or sometimes linguistically it was refered to a source of water or an oasis. The source of law in islam is therefore Sharia, Shariah, Sharee’ah, Shari’ah.
About Lebabnon - Communal jurisdiction for Muslims, Druze, Christians and Jews. Two levels of Shari'a courts (with Sunni and Ja?fari Judges): Shari'a Courts of First Instance and Supreme Shari'a Court in Beirut sitting with 3 qadis and a civil judge acting as Attorney-General.
Further, a letter from someone who seems to know the difference between how Shariah law is applied here and in S.E.Asia.
Fareed Says:
April 2nd, 2006 at 10:54 pm
Assalamu Alaikum Wr. Wb.
Shariah laws have been touted as opressing of woman and other unfavourable comments by western world.
And western world brags about their womens right and freedom, of which none is true from my personal experiences. We are from S.E.Asia.
My daughter was married in accordance to islam in Michgan,USA. to a so called devoted Muslim. About a year time, this man divorce her using civil cout in livingston county. Since in USA a Muslim needs civil documents to prove his divorce we did not refuse the use of it. But my request & declaration for Syariah settlement was not entertained. Local mosque imam at Canton, who heard us initially, also could not do anything not even a reply to us for all the numerous phone calls and mails.
The civil court awarded my 20 year young girl, whom i entrusted to this so called muslim & family, nothing. This so called muslim promised us 5000 as mahar. The civil court did not enforce this promise he made to his exwife, even though he admit it. Worst she was not even given the wages she worked in US during her stay whic she gave to her ex husband. All the money was given to the American, so called muslim man. This is western women rights!!!! Hypocrites. I haram all the money and acts they have done to my daughter. This, so called muslim used civil law judgement for islamic marriage and islamic decree on civil judgement.
But here in S.E.Asia our syariah court continues to award all divorce women, immaterial of what her race, country and even religion(converts & reverts),with maintainace, 50% of property, protection and proper repartriation and compensation for foriegn brides.
Shariah- the law of our creator is perfect and for all those who think and believe man made law will be just, especially WOMEN, think and investigate. Dont be fooled by the DARJAAL! I want to thank GOD for showing clearly what is false which was so attractive initially. MAy ALLAH swt provide the light to all the trapped muslims and light their heart with the divine light.
ALLAHU AKBER!( GOD IS GREAT)…..Fareed, Singapore.
It seems the only one 'misled' was you, Ahmed. But you did teach me something. You can't read and you don't know what you're talking about.
19. January 31st 2007 @ 11:46. S.L. Bradish Says:
Hi Youranter! I see Ahmed hasn't learned anything lately. I'm sure Fox News is terrified of him! He generally spouts off, makes a complete fool of himself, blames his "victim" and then with a "bleh..bleh.." disappears into the nether regions. Unfortunately, he keeps coming back....
20. January 31st 2007 @ 17:06. youranter Says:
Like a bad rash, SL. Maybe he'll have some facts the next time he shows up. I doubt it though.

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